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between the big two and other providers and, of course, that ultimately hurts consumers if their competitive options are limited and if they don't have as many options as they might especially for truly high-end plans for the most popular devices. if they're funneled into one provider or another that keep competitors out of that picture. >> host: we want to hear from chris guttman-mccabe, also, of the wireless industry. what's your cob collusion about the -- conclusion about the wireless industry itself? >> guest: so not surprisingly i disagree with matt. i think by any measure it's an effectively competitive industry. i think if you look at the number of options that consumers have, i think that the report says that 90% of americans have access to five or more facilities-based competitors. that doesn't take into consideration the numerous resellers that are out there. i think if you look at whether it's the price per minute or the average bill, the average bill is half of what it was in 1987, you know, around the beginning of the industry. and if you think what is being
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